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I've now increased the amount of mailing points you earn for each forum post to a massive 250 points! It's the same for all membership levels. Before this, the max you could earn was 30 and that was with double points for posts which we were giving to active posters. I've removed the double points because I feel it is unnecessary, and much easier to say everyone earns 250 points per post! With the 15-30 points per post it would take someone much longer to earn enough points to send a mailing. Now there will be more mailing volume, but it also means you can earn your own sends much easier. Upgraded members still get the benefit of not requiring mailing points to send their mailings. The upgraded level is also changing. I am removing the Gold level until we grow to support a higher volume of free sends for that level. The only upgrade that will be available now is the silver membership, which can send a FREE mailing to 1200 members every 48 hours. Any additional you can reach with points. All members also earn more points for every email ad you read - you will be randomly given between 30 to 60 points per email ad you read. What do you think of this change? Let me know!

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Martin here, Retired after 40 yrs of administering anesthesia. Still like to dabble in hypnosis. Have been on line over 20 years and find marketing fascinating. California is home for me and my wife. I spend 1-2 hours a day testing new sites. I try my best to weed-out the scams. When I find a site that meets my criteria, I test it a few more days to see what kind of response I get and then I recommend it to my private list called, the "Active Players List" My criteria can be seen here: http://sensible-marketing.blogspot.com/ My fav saying: "Emotions are stronger than intellect".

Hi, If you use safelists, I am posting this for you. There is a scam that is online where you (the intended victim) suddenly find yourself looking at an official looking webpage (It could look like it came from Microsoft or your Internet Provider) with a loud and repeating warning that your system has been infected with some sort of virus. Furthermore, it instructs you to call a number to have it removed. DON'T CALL THAT NUMBER AND DON'T PANIC! It's all a scam! To clear the page and the annoying alarm hit the ESC key. To be on the safe side, You can log off and run your virus scanner just to make sure! (I can't emphasize the importance of keeping your virus scanners up to date). It is important to remember that these pages are set up to get you to panic. To the uninformed, they are very effective. The reason I post this is to warn everyone of these pages and what NOT to do. I ran across one a few days ago and then again two days ago when I was working through some ads in one of the safelists I belong to. To Your Success!

Hello Everyone My name is Rick Ouellette It's a pleasure to be here and to meet all you amazing people part of Marketing Check Point. I have been trying to make money online for about a year now and bombed out so far. Tried just about everything so now im trying affiliate marketing. I will see how this work's out. My funds to invest in my self or anything for that matter is 0 to none. Have not worked in almost a year. So trying to get off the ground with all the free resources i can use. I hope to learn a lot from all the experts here. Have a great day To your Success Rick Ouellette Ps I started my first website if anyone would like to check it out and give me some feedback on how i can make it better. Maybe while your there pick a post and leave me a comment i would appreciate any advice i could get.

I can see why you would think that, I often too wonder how they are able to bring advertising results, yet they still do. My business generated $250,000 in sales last year, and other than a few safelists, virtually all of my paid advertising was in Traffic Exchanges.. so although as an advertiser sometimes it does defy logic, and I think know there are some traffic exchanges that will never give me a return, and some ads that I can never get a return on, in general it is still effective. This year my paid advertising has expanded beyond just Traffic Exchanges because I want to reach a larger audience, however I still am unable to beat the ROI I get from Traffic Exchanges, however I do also attribute most of this to the fact that the majority of the advertising I am getting is free from referrals, so my actual advertising cost is much lower than if I had to pay for every visitor outright. To be frank, most traffic exchanges will not provide the value if you spent the money on the credits, a lot of them have adopted a business model of creating a community and connections, using the advertising platform as the vehicle - and have been able to provide a lot more value to the members through this than the advertising itself, and a lot of traffic exchange users are paying for the things that come along with being in that club, rather than buying the advertising itself. As far as everybody promoting the same offers, that's true for everything. 99% of TV Commercials are the exact same thing, 99% of previews for movies are the same format.. most of the criticisms I hear about Traffic Exchanges, while generally valid, really apply to paid advertising as a whole. Regarding people mindlessly clicking and ignoring your message --- good, your message isn't for those people. Let them click mindlessly for years and get nowhere, they aren't there for you, and that's ok. How many bottles of Tide laundry detergent do you think a single Tide commercial sells? Sitting at your home, watching TV.. nowhere near a situation where you are actually looking to purchase Laundry Detergent, and most likely you already have a favorite anyway. MOST people are going to ignore it, and that's ok. You don't need MOST people to react to your advertising.. you really only need a couple people who your product REALLY speaks to get interest, then let the power of your product do the rest. Finding that person who responds to your ad is way better than trying to get everyone to respond - because people who don't need it and respond, don't stay. People who need it and respond, tell their friends. Big Picture : There's really only two ways to market a company that are semi-viable. 1) Content Marketing -- creating content that your customer values, providing value in good faith that the trust relationship being built will lead to sales. Content Marketing is a very long-term play given the nature of the methods it is found - search. 2) Paid Advertising -- Buying up ads to get your message out. The Paid Advertising is a short-term play, you buy an ad and it shows up right now. Both strategies really work hand-in-hand. Content marketing is of course going to be more effective, but it'll take 2-3 years to really scale, to have enough content that enough people are coming to you. The major downfall of Paid Advertising is that it is a business of interrupting people, and people generally don't like to be interrupted. Traffic Exchanges have a distinct advantage in Paid Advertising in that it's not actually interrupting anyone, when a person surfs they know exactly what they are getting themselves in to, they know they are about to look at an ad - and choose to do just that, so the traditional failure of Paid Advertising -- which is interrupting people who don't want to be interrupted -- is why Traffic Exchanges have remained effective. Another reason why they remain successful and popular is simply that you can do it for free or very low cost, a lot of new businesses just don't have the budget to blow $3,000 on facebook ads just during the learning curve of figuring out how to make an ad that works. These two methods can work very much in tandem, and the people who combine them are the one's who dominate in Traffic Exchanges, and it works simply by creating materials you would for Content Marketing, and advertising that content. Knowing that most people who are using them are beginning at business and aren't running on their 4th round of angel investors getting a $8 Million valuation, you can narrowly understand who your audience is. The next step is to create content specifically for them. Think about the problems and solutions that you might have had when you first started your business.. you needed things like hosting, an autoresponder, and to expand your advertising efforts to increase your reach. Now you take the content marketing approach of creating meaningful content regarding those subjects, the most effective I've found is creating a full-fledged membership site built around the topic, and offer training and consulting on how to do it effectively. The trick though is that it really needs to be free, valuable content.. allow the sales to happen on the back end for what you are REALLY trying to advertise.. this website or email series needs to be specifically designed to give information, provide value, and build trust.. so that when you do get that point where you work for a purchase, the barriers will have already been dropped, and they can purchase with confidence. You're at an advantage in Traffic Exchanges in that you already have the viewers permission, people build entire sales funnels around the concept of trying to get someone to tell you it's ok for you to try and sell to them, but with a Traffic Exchange they gave you that permission as soon as they hit the surf button -- they KNOW when they click that button that they are going to be sold to, and they did it anyway, so now that you have your foot in the door, you can really turn up the volume on the value level, and begin building trust... providing free valuable content will build that trust, and using paid advertising ramps up the distribution of that content, and creates sort of a one-two punch. You're right in that Traffic Exchanges won't work for most people... and neither will facebook ads, twitter ads, adsense, or putting a banner on a blog. However when you give that sort of specific, long-tail content that brings direct value to the audience you want - then Traffic Exchanges do work.. and so does facebook ads, twitter ads, adsense, and putting a banner on a blog.

Hi Fellow MCP Members, Tommie Kirkland (Captkirk) here... Don't forget to add your website to your forum profile and Sig File. Why? Because I visit ALL members profile and Sig File to see what they're promoting or offering. Wouldn't you want a Top Marketer like me promoting your site? In the past, I have found new sites that I started promoting and attracted other top promoters... Again, Don't forget to add your website to your forum profile and Sig File.

Hi Darren, Here's one of the ways that I start my morning by listening and watching Motivation videos on youtube: Mindshift - Motivational Video - Viewed 5,614,911 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fviFNrWKzZ8 There's a whole series of them listed on Youtube. I listen to them while I'm posting ads. Frankly, this give me an unfair advantage over most marketers.

Great guidelines. Works for me

Does MATTHEW GRAVES owe you money? If so, you're not alone! Once a respected online marketing "guru", Matthew has turned to the dark side in the last couple of years, and now owes large amounts of money to large numbers of people. His "Site Partners" scheme (or should I say scam?) appears to be a dead duck - I haven't managed to find a single partner who has received their earnings from the sites on which they were supposed to be partners, and the Facebook group for partners has had all members & posts removed - probably because all the posts were from people wondering when (if?) they would receive their earnings. Matthew doesn't have a proper support ticket system - a "red flag" in itself - and doesn't reply to emails from people asking for the money they're owed. Ironically, his mailers are well designed & have a good number of responsive members, so they are still worth joining - just don't bother paying for an upgrade, this man doesn't deserve any more of other people's money.

I saw a poll about this and it didnt look good, not sure where it was. And another post about this in this forum. What is weird is that every list site is the same script on every site it looks like? He should have left his orginial sites alone and not clone each one from 1 thing. The orginial sites was what the internet marketing world used to consist of, well most of it, before cloning became some sort of fad or expectation.

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Hi I'm Paul, I live in Scotland, U.K. and have been dabbling with online home business strategies since around 2003, I got in to the world of Finance in 2007 and experienced the housing market bubble and the stock market crash in 2008 which affected my business and since then I have been trying and testing various different income strategies. I like to learn new things, meet new people and also share ideas. Since I started my online adventure I have made lot's of new friends and business associates, feel free to send me a friend request so that we can share some business ideas. To your Success, Good Health & Financial Prosperity! Paul Nulty Business & Lifestyle Coach P.S. My only regret in the last 10 years of marketing is... I wish I had found this sooner! The Own Your Life Plan

If someone isnt paying commissions for MONTHS but the site is still up then you arent going to get paid. I dont know who he is, but seems like another on the list. I have been hearing about this person, mathew graves and john bell for months to the past couple years - and even longer now. Many, many owners are not paying anymore it seems like. It pisses me off even more today than it did 6 months ago, a year ago, 2 years ago... because me and a load of other owners pay their dues to people, despite paypal and whatever problems. Plus answer support tickets. And I see so many promoting and buying from them still... still. They dont deserve it as they dont do the work to deserve the time & money affiliates put into what they do! (aka members)

I've been seeing, in a certain part of this arena, that they are saying "TE's are Dead" or that they "will be in a year" or "dying". It is propaganda. It's THAT part of the arena that has been squashed. ..."that part" meaning this closed off, cultish, small part of the arena that was separated from the real internet marketing world out there. Their followers follow every word of their teachers, webinars, false knowledge and even false history of how long they have been in business or the false level of success that they had in the online world before 2010-2016. In those years, that part exploded in which alot of people moved from being affiliates of sites and programs... to being sudden site owners and so everyone and their momma had a TE or a mailer. But they werent told that having a carbon copy of a script, or even partially 'custom' modified, and competing with 1000 other sites .. that it would be an eventual problem. Believe me, it is NOT the first time it happened. A script has been sold to death before. On the other end, people were also told to invest into trafficmonsoon, collect badges, collect coins, surf for pennies, and basically whatever made them money, they told their followers to do it - and they did because they had respect for them - based on FALSE history told, and/or schmoozing. Back to the scripts: The same site script being sold over and over again ... just with a different domain name, theme and graphics. Of course it was severely downgraded ALREADY before ppal and monsoon happened, in that part of the arena or "industry" as they call it. It just made the scripts sellers, 'launch manager', badge and coin collecting sites, etc a lot of money.... then they use excuses such as: penny surfers, paypal, trafficmonsoon, to jump ship or blame the collapse on the very people who followed them and bought from them. You know... "they dont embrace change", "they are just penny surfers", "they dont want to invest or learn", "offering money for surfing did it"..... etc...etc... ...while many ended up losing thousands a piece who bought into the propaganda (false info and teachings), mods, launch managers, follow my 'friends' new launch, etc. What gets me is that its not dead in the real internet marketing world and straight up BS if anyone says it. Is easyhits4u dead? Is Trafficadbar dead? Leadsleap? What about the others? Or even my own? No. Still alive and kicking. They ARE traffic exchanges with or without variances. So if someone who used to praise it galore and make tons of money off people teaching about it, suddenly says its dead and want you to go to crypto.... think long and hard about how they have abandoned that very thing they called themselves a teacher on (traffic exchanges) before doing it. So... if someone else says its dead but viral mailers are the next it thing.... think long and hard on why the person who used to teach people and praise TE's... and sell those scripts... now want you to follow them into viral mailers (*cough* safelist in disguise). Think long and hard again because, I'm sorry, that has been around literally 20 years and has been the trend for - 20 years. It is NOT new. Paypal didnt kill them. Trafficmonsoon didnt kill them, in which they actually benefited greatly from trafficmonsoon btw. I saw it myself, I saw the webinar(s) with scoville that they had, and the biggie: Scoville told me himself how much they benefited. Also. There is NO difference of a viral mailer to a safelist or a plain mailer, period. It's a ploy to make it sound special and something different from the usual email advertising safelist. They are not viral and nothing different. Stop spreading false words. So again: TE is not dead. But the inexperienced teaching the inexperienced is. Thanks for letting me scream. -Maryanne Myers

Hi everyone, Iv made a few posts here and forgot to introduce myself. .. My name is Jonny and iv been online marketing for around 4 years now. I have never limited myself to any certain area of internet marketing, and am always open to take on new money-making methods. If you want to connect and/or share some ideas etc, let me know! p.s. This site is pretty awesome. Regards, Jonny

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Cryptocurrency is bitcoin, litecoin, dogecoin, ethereum--to name the ones everyone likes. The actual definition is a decentralized, peer to peer, digital/virtual currency. Decentralized: not controlled by banks or produced by governments. peer to peer: transferred directly from person to person, no banks in between. digital/virtual: exists only as a string of numbers/letters. so not a solid coin or bill. The "crypto" has a double meaning--crypto because it is a specific computer generated algorithm, a "code", and also because it is anonymous and can't be tracked by governments (crypto means "secret", disguised). It can be used just like "real" money at a lot of online businesses and some offline businesses. It has pros and cons, like any fiat currency does. Pros: anonymous, like cash. can't be counterfeited. far more secure than credit cards Cons: some gov'ts are banning and trying to regulate it. not in widespread use offline or online. Hard to convert to conventional currency. Any more questions drop me a private message, or ask here in the forum so everybody can get in on the conversation-- And BTW, not a stupid question at all! A lot of people have heard of "bitcoin", but don't really know what it's about. Ignorance is not knowing something. Stupid is having plenty of time, and ways, to learn something and choosing not to. Anyone who is interested/curious enough to ask a question is not asking a stupid question--quite the opposite. You are not only smart enough to know you are ignorant, you're correcting the ignorance.

Just this week news has been spreading about something called "Safelist Pirate". One might think it's a safelist where you can advertise, but it's nothing of the sort. Taken directly from a website: "Safelist Pirate is the software package automates everything. From reading the e-mail, observation the ad, and filling out the captcha. affirmative that’s right – we tend to got our own captcha technology integrated with this software package. this implies folks don’t have to be compelled to purchase credits with their captcha breaker account. The workers is incredibly responsive, therefore if a secure list web site has modified we tend to update the software package." Now you may be thinking "Sweet, I can automate my advertising and reach thousands without lifting a finger!". Let me explain...if you're advertising to people who are not reading your messages, and instead those people are using automated software to read your ads, what value does it have to you? It means that advertising is worth little to nothing, rendering the entire process as useless. If you're a safelist owner it is recommended to ban safelistpirate.com from your site. Also, don't bother going to the website for the software - there are concerns of malicious scripts encoded on the website, and you're probably opening up more risks downloading the software to your computer.

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This is awesome, Darren. Thank you for giving us this opportunity to share and maybe get a few referrals in the process.

Thank you Darren

Hi everyone! I'm from Toronto, Canada and I'm not getting back in IM after a year off. I'm ready to help more and more people to generate great income online and achieving great results. Looking forward to network! Cheers, Billy Inelus

In response to your question on facebook groups: My experience is that just posting ads to groups is not very efficient. The "clicks" you get rarely lead to dedicated team members. That said, actually networking in groups that are designed for connecting rather than posting can be quite successful, so look for the ones that don't allow links. For me, the true value of social media is the ability to specifically target people (using the parameters that work for you) and reaching out to build relationships with your chosen audience. My team has been bringing in 100+ people a week using this strategy. Although the sheer number of people you communicate this way is lower, the quality (and conversion) is much greater. Feel free to find me on facebook (where else?) if you'd like to talk more about this. Kimberly http://facebook.com/kimberly.rutherford.77

I would do a free something to generate opt-ins, but nothing else. Giving away freebies on your site that you want people to get in and ultimately purchase things is not a very good route to go, from my experience.. ..but giving them a free guide on how to do something as the hook for opting in to your email list - then providing value to that list and later advertising that site you want them to get in and ultimately purchase things, can be very effective -- you've used the freebie to get them in (the hook) but then once they were in you've built a trust relationship by providing legitimate, actionable, value; so when they get to the point in the funnel that you want them to begin purchasing, that barrier is much smaller because they already trust you and your judgement.

Because it reaches a point where time invested is of greater value than the cost of the credits. However personally, the best investment is not clicking myself nor buying credits - it's getting referrals to do the clicking and earning credits from their surfing. Free credits without clicking... this is, in my opinion, what makes traffic exchanges such valuable resources over any other advertising medium. A year or two of work building referrals to return several years of free advertising (not only free advertising, but also getting commissions)

Should we get on the topic of timers and no timers again lol always a huge debate there. Honestly Trafficswirl has been pushing out some nice conversions for me over the last 3 months. I would say that's one of the musts to try and keep your ads in rotation on.

Prosperity Marketing System is a funded proposal system for network marketers that I started back in 2009. Since then it has evolved into a very generous 100% commissions payout system that builds your autoresponder list and funnels people into your primary business. It also includes a series of training courses, mainly covering safelists and traffic exchanges. Click here to join

Why is Duplication So Important? Too many affiliates join and do not know what to do. They want to achieve success but they do not know how. Or maybe there are just too many ways to do it. There is no key to success but there are Rules. The reason duplication is so important is that a day job, an hourly pay job, always has a limit to the amount you can make. You may be a Doctor or a Dentist and you may make very good money per hour. But the only way to make more money is to work more hours. And the day you stop working the hours you stop earning the money. With duplication you do the same amount of work month after month, but your earning power is growing each month. If a Doctor does five operations a week, week after week, month after month, his earnings do not change. He may experience an annual raise or cost of living increases, but he will never actually make more than he has the time in which to make it. With duplication every hour invested is increasing your earnings potential. If you can only gain one new customer, one new affiliate a month, but each and every month you gain one more and train them to gain just one. At first, and for the first 9 months you will honestly be making very little. But in nine months, in month 10, you will suddenly experience a burst of income, and then each following month, more and more. This is Tommie K's (capt. Kirk) Free advertising plan. He does the same things every day, "Post to free ad sites 365 days a year". But his income is continually rising because each new person who joins his programs adds to his current income, but he is using the same amount of time to do the same thing day after day. You promote a consumable item, an item purchased each month. The first month you have 1 new customer and 1 sale, the second month you have 1 new customer but 2 sales. the third month, 1 new customer but 3 sales. See. The same thing holds true for a subscription based service. Each month you do the same work, but earn more money. What are some barriers to duplication for you or in your business?

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I've heard many bad reports from people, either they haven't been paid commissions, or their accounts weren't upgraded after paying, and no support to help, and this goes back a couple of years already. I guess you could try leave a message at his skype. I just checked and he shows to have been active there in the last days. pageswirl

And that's because there is so little competition. When 500 distributors are invited to attend a three-hour company training workshop - why is it that only 50 will attend? Where are the other 450? They feel that investing time in training and working their MLM business interferes with their daily cable television schedule. When their small bonus checks arrive at the end of the month, they say: "The business doesn't work, the checks are too small." Or - "The check got smaller all by itself." Well, they are partially right. The business doesn't work - they have to do the work. Ouch! That's really inconvenient. And, "The check got smaller all by itself?" No, the bonus check only reflects the sales volume of one's downline organization. There are three types of people in MLM: 1. Those who joined because they love the products. 2. Those who want to receive bonus checks, if it doesn't require work. 3. Those who want to earn a bonus check. Type 3, those who want to earn a bonus check, represent only a small percentage of all networkers. Most networkers will give great lip service to the idea that they want to earn bonus checks, but their actions speak louder than words. They are easy to recognize by their actions. They . . . can't go to opportunity meetings because "The Simpsons" have a special episode that evening; won't go to opportunity meetings because they attended one once before and they already know the ending; won't make phone appointments because the prospect might say no; wish the company would make it easier for them by lowering prices or do their retailing for them; won't make up a prospecting list because everyone they know just wouldn't be interested; and wish beer was served at the training meetings. The great part about networking is that 95% of all networkers fall into product users and people who wish for bonus checks. That means there is little or no competition for dedicated leaders who want to earn their way in this great business. That's why it is so easy to work and earn large bonus checks in network marketing -- there's no competition at the top! Distributors and prospects are naturally attracted to leaders who lead by example. Good network marketing leaders don't have to prospect for new distributors -- distributor prospects come to them. You'll always hear the non-working network marketing distributors say: "How is it that my upline leader gets all the good prospects?" Because prospects look for leaders - not non-workers. Can you imagine a prospect saying: "I think I'll find a sponsor who whines, complains, and doesn't work the business." No way. Good prospects look for energetic, enthusiastic, dedicated, working sponsors. So, if you want to work where you'll encounter little competition, start at the top. Be a leader.

Then they shouldnt open more sites. Make the current ones sell first. I have 17 sites with a bigger membership than what he has (it was more but I merged some into my 2 Pangea's which are very successful since doing that) but the sites are each programmed by me, from scratch in a text pad of all things. Pay my people out, answer my own support tickets, do my own graphics, and do my own dedicated servers. And that isnt the entire list of what I do. No support people, no hired programmers,not even graphic design, no replicated scripts (copies). But I still pay people, which is also 5 figures in commissions a year too. It is not OK to excuse people when I kick my @ss every single day (no vacation for the past several years either) and a few others do the same level also. But those exuses would not survive if this was the restaurant world. The restaurants would go under. BTW, I'm not here to bash people. I am just very blunt about things on how it is. And I do wonder what's up with putting out 20 sites with the same script and not paying people. He is one of the older owners on here, not the oldest but near it and this is unusual, the past couple years. I actually miss the orginal sites he had.

Hi! I have been in SFI for a LONG time. Well before TripleClicks came into the picture. Back then it was mostly a great line of cleaners and natural products with other things added to spice things up. It is the first company I ever made a real paper check sent to me from online work. It is a great company and very well run. Gerry keeps innovating and improving as the years go by. The training is well worth going through and the support is the best I have encountered. Now, I haven't done much with SFI lately. For me, it got TOO big and TOO complicated. It also got to the point of diminishing returns on time for the money made for me. You can join and be an affiliate FREE forever. This means you are marketing the products in TripleClicks for a commission or getting people to join and play the penny auctions or games. The penny auction was fun and cool, but you can drop a serious amount of money into them pretty quickly if you are not careful and still not win anything. As to the affiliate part, yes they do have items you probably won't find anywhere else. The shipping is what takes the toll though. Since they are small sellers they don't get the breaks on shipping larger companies do. They are also trying to compete with Amazon and eBay on many products. The thrust is to become an EA which has a purchase requirement involved. This is where your future "passive" income comes into play. The idea is to buy what you would at another store from your own TripleClicks store, this is your "autoship". This sounds fine in theory; but, I couldn't do it in real life. When shipping rates went up, it began to be quite costly to keep it up. Even if you just purchase TCredits, it still adds up. Sure those can be used for a variety of things on the site, but you have to recover the money somehow. To use them you have to spend time in the auctions, or games and then when do you find time to recruit and train? So you need to bring people into the biz. Build downlines and then you get money from their efforts and purchases. This is the network marketing or MLM side of the biz. Just like in every other biz online, you need to invest a bit of not only time but money into it. You can spend a lot on your monthly minimum and and still be in the red for quite some time until you build a big enough downlline of people who will ACTUALLY work the biz. The other rub. It takes a lot of time and effort to get people to join and then train them and hope they will follow your training. It is way too easy for people to get distracted and spend all day in the penny auctions and not do any marketing or recruiting. I know I did it too. i do know people who are doing quite well with it. I also know a LOT who joined and didn't do anything. To become successful with it you have to have the time, talent for recruiting and training, and money to sustain it until you start making a profit with it. Just like any other MLM or network marketing effort. Even as an affiliate, I had a hard time even getting people to go to TripleClicks when handing out hundreds of the gift cards. If you handed out amazon gift cards it would be a different story. People have just never heard of it and are leery I guess. So you not only have to sell the product, but the company too. As an affiliate, the smart move is to find products that are unique you can't find anywhere else and build a site around them like Amazon affiliates do. If people shop around (like they all do) most of the stuff can be found on Amazon for much less. In my mind, I like simple. There is just too much you can focus on and too many distractions. Some can focus on getting people to the penny auctions and make money from the TCredit sales. Others use the ECA program. Others just focus on a single product to sell. So for me I went another route where the time/money aspect was in line with what I was after. Making a lot in the future is nice, but there are bills to pay now. You have to be able to get to the point of covering your "nut" as quickly as possible. So the business sustains itself without putting money into it. I just didn't find a good way myself to do it. Other people are doing well and could do well with it. Just my opinion and experience.

Here's one I really like: "Failure Is The Opportunity To Begin Again More Intelligently" - Henry Ford

Thank you, Darren! I didn't know about Marketing Checkpoint until I received your email about this.

Hi Darren, The program thread is a great idea for members to showcase their favorite sites. I'm looking forward to seeing the programs that the members list.

Great Concept! I have never seen a Forum combined with a Mailer!

Keep in mind, you are using entry level advertising when you try traffic exchanges or safelists. Not only are response rates lower, but it's very easy to think all you need to do is place your ad and wait for the money. It's like any other advertising, you need experience and possibly a mentor to learn what works and what doesn't, then it still takes more time to test and evaluate your campaigns to reach the point where you have a feeling what will work before you even launch it. Think like your readers and address their needs, not yours. You need to be rewarded for your effort, but until they see enough value to take action that's putting the cart before the horse.

Hello Matt, how are you? How does reputation points work? I could not find any where it is listed. Is there a place I missed? Thanks, Phyllis

People get put off on "opportunities" or the like. The best way to get your offer in front of them is to never lead with your MLM, network marketing company, or any offer that directs them to "opt in to an offer". Lead with YOU. As you are the distributor of multiple products, services and resources, why lead with what you want to sell them? Find out what they want first, then give them what they want... Later Robert Dorsey

Hi, My name is Crystal, and I live in Ohio. I am new to the whole marketing thing, so bear with me as I learn the process here. Thanks!!

This seems to be the right place for helping one another. After-all the way things work everything is cyclical, or repeats. So, if one chooses not to be giving a hand to another who needs it, how then can it turn back? I know this one from first hand experience. Thanks for the honesty

Darren is right, it's all about trying and testing, try different marketing techniques and when you get a result repeat it, if you keep trying different techniques with no results you may need to re think about either the market you are targeting or the products or services you are promoting. You will get there.

Warrior Forum move over there's a new kid in town :-) I'm not gonna lie, it's way better than how it was. We can use another great forum, I hope people use it in a way that won't turn it into just another spamming forum though.

Thank you. People not having the spirit of helping each other, don't succeed.