Garrett Hutsko

Here is a unique motivation. Get caught up in a fraud and try to figure out how you are going to make it all right, You have a choice either to quit of to get pumping so you can correct all that went bad in the scam.

I joined it abut never liked its security setup. It was so adifficult ato ause that I was aalmost ready to leaave it anywaay.

I was doing what I do almost all the time working on my business. I got a phone call and then I did the stupid, I go scammed. The guy on the phone related to me and my business. He seemed to be talking truth about my business and who I know. He seemed to understand my business and how you make the internet a good business platform. He kept me on the phone for more than 4 hours. You would think I would recognize that he was as phony as can be. Everything he said seemed to be reasonable and on target, then he pulled the scam on me. He showed me the money and wanted a license fee to start the transfer process. I should have stopped every thing at that point but no. I went forward and transferred the money, then the phone line was dropped. From all the info I have there is now no way to make this right and no way to get back the money I put on the line. Talk about a downer this one takes the cake, I plan on working with the various groups which handle scams but I have no illusion of getting back my money or getting the money promised. I can add information or talk to anyone about what happened but I will leave this at this point. Garrett

I found the problem and it turns out the problem was caused by a plugin that my tech people installed into FireFox. It is designed to block certain kinds of ads which are bad but it also blocked my banners. I removed the plugin and will have to do something else if the bad ad comes up again. What I do know is that the ad that came up is phony and a scam now I need to find something else which will catch it in the future.

I did some additional checking and discovered that this problem occurs in FireFox abut not in IE, or Chrome. This is strange anybody know what might be causing this in FireFox.

I am running into a strange when I go to my Safelists, etc... When I go to look at my Banners page it looks like a lot of the Banners are not working. I was surprised when I looked at My Free Banner Bus to see that I have the same problem there. When I click on the banner it functions exactly as I expect it to but I am not seeing my banner in the list like I should. If I click on the banner I see exactly what I should see. Here are the questions this raises: Are the banners showing as they should when in normal rotation. Is there a problem on the internet that these don't show in the list. Are the banners performing as they should Is there anything I can do.I have been seeing this over the last few days and I can't tell if there is any consistency to what I aan seeing. Some Banners show perfectly and some don't show at all, Anyone else seeing this, Any idea on what is going on. Garrett

I took a look at the videos and for the most part they look good. I have watched quite a few of them. Here is the warning I followed one of the links and found myself at a site where they pulled a scam on me. I experienced this link in the past and got in touch with the Geek Squad since I have an account with them and all it took was for them to find the link and remove it. If you are not careful with this link it could cost you big bucks. This is just a warning to beware. Garrett

Mine was also AMWAY. I think they are a great MLM but it takes to much to make it work. I still use many of the products and think they are good but pricey and getting people to join with you is a real challenge. I looked at the program when I was a teenager and tried it after I got out of the Army but never made it work.

I haven't spent any money here yet and don't plan on doing so. I will look at the videos when I have the time but all that they are doing so far is very questionable.

I would think when someone buys and existing system all prior members would be grandfathered in. The new owner bought the system because of something and you would think the current membership would be part of the reason and as such the new owner would do what they can to keep the members happy not chase them away. Garrett

WOW this stinks. I think if you had approached this in a different way you probably would be in good shape and happily making money. The concept you are suggesting sounds a lot like My Free Banner Bus You might want to check this out since this process works well. Garrett

I am not an owner yet but want to be in the future. I think this question is the wrong question. If you think in terms of building your list instead then Monthly VS Annual VA Lifetime is not important, It you think in terms of list building and turning you list into a money making tool the rest of the question is not important. Hopefully the owners of the sites are thinking beyond the immediate Safelist building and towards building a list worth a lot of money. Basically safelists are part of a business and maybe an important part of a business but it should be just a part of a business not the hole business. I think that The safelists that die were viewed as the business not as part of the business. If the owners had no plan to capture the members of the safelist to a separate list then they did themselves a grave disservice. I hear all the time that the money is in the list and that is all a Safelist really is.

I use them both and love them, the ULTI process is to complex as far as I am concerned. Garrett

The quick answer is it depends. The reason I put it that way is there may be other things that affect the price. The normal monthly price is $99 and the Platinum is $149. You can get a Silver Show home which is a silver on steroids, this costs $497 for a year, this is a special deal. Also you can get multi-month and multi-year memberships at various price ranges. I think for what you get this is vary cheap.

The upgrade is from free to Silver or Silver to Platinum. There is no additional charge to the upgrade other than the cost of the Silver or Platinum