Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K

1) when you login to oru, you have to buy your card. The option was current funds, stripe (I think it was) and paypal, I saw this myself. They now do not have that option listed and sent out this announcement, see here https://prnt.sc/na78i2 2) I cant tell you who told me about the ppal investigation (it was several weeks long). But I think the above backs up what I say about losing it and their announcement about it. I'm not in the business of making things up... I don't need to. Yes I COULD make easy money with it, especially since I have 21 years of membership sites built up. But it's wouldn't be right to do, rubs me the wrong way. I make money selling what I build, not recruiting people into programs. For YOU, yes, make money with it - you are a network marketer, that is what you are online for and you are good at it too. I'm not saying you are bad for it at all.

Most are not adding it - because it's a preloaded card like a Rush card or black card or Zcard (not sure which ones) and not a payment processor at all, and it is a business opportunity with 10 "layers" ....and didnt they get their paypal account closed yesterday? They use stripe and paypal to process the visa card orders.. so they had to cancel all subscriptions through ppal, I am sure next is stripe too if I saw it right. Their (oru) announcement said it was because they were becoming too big and going to rival paypal (and basically scared paypal so they closed their account). lol... I doubt I would see ORU card as a payment option at Uber or Grubhub, or Coinbase, or at Citibank and Bankof America like ppal is (freakin' everywhere now). My point is, their announcement is untrue and I know through the grapevine, for a fact, that they were being investigated by ppal people for using paypal in a 10 level mlm program for several weeks now. And they just nabbed their account yesterday or the day before. Bsides, its plain odd tauting a 'paypal replacement' but using paypal to accept payments for it, dont you think? -------- I want to add, I am not against any business opportunity at all. Its the "payment processor" part in order to recruit people who were already abused by paypal and the rest. So I have a problem with site owners telling people to pay 30 bucks, and 5 dollars a month in order to buy from them or to receive commissions - especially small commissions, like $10. Plus they make money on it 10 levels down while they do it? It's just another preloaded visa card with a biz opp attachedt it, but for me, the idea of sending hundreds or thousands of people (my members) into that requirement in order to get paid is not a good solution and I feel would make me look like a fool in the end, because I think it will gone in a year or less.

I won't, everything is going to stay how it is for a long long time

Blessnic2019, you can do that on all my safelists ( "I am going to sign up for this today and use it to advertise my business. I love the fact that we can choose not to receive emails into our gmails.")

Ahh Glad to hear that I wasnt sure if 10 was enough, but guess so :-)

Yay! :-) :-) :-) I will email everyone to login, when I get back (need sleep.. badly) and let them know the changes (putting the ads back on referral pages and longer list and ect)

hehehe good :-)

No, Never heard the name I think

Safelists can go on and on with effectiveness - like if 5 people bought an (lifetime) upgrade and dont have to click, make sure another 10 new people come in and do. I guess, grow. Unless I misunderstood.... Because Clare, I get no sleep lately so brain is foggy! I dont even make half sense in email replies to anyone anymore!? haha

I know! hahaha and... I had a reason but forget why exactly, it was probably reducing sql connections (server load) but since then I have them running better and got bigger ones. Sooo those "recent emails" links are back on all referral pages again

Thank you Clare and Thank you Glen :-) I had someone else tell me about the CTR at facebook the other day too. Very glad and relieved too. I care if the sites work or not, thats why I say relieved haha

Oh good :-) Really glad to hear that too. I've been doing little changes here and there recently to make it better, or hopefully better. Well... your 2 Satoshis.. are smart and has a good point there. Yeah, if they havent been around for many many years (the owners) then a monthly subscription is a safe bet. Otherwise, lifetimes are a safe bet AND if the owner is still "involved" like you see them around forums, facebook or emailing members, or somewhere "alive" (not just occassionaly sending an email about their 'friend just opened a site' or a 'christmas sale' email now and then.. that is a signal for lack of interest ).

Glad you like it, the payment platform. I put alot of thought on how to break it up, and how it could be recurring too. Its gained 3200+ members in the past 3 weeks. Nice steady growth for all showing their cards

Yes.. like super roughly, like you can have alot of PTC hits go there and manipulate the rank, but hardly any signup or buy (depending on what the site is tho). Good way to tell if by looking at the referring sites it lists, and by the top countries

?? Its not a loss for the sponsor... they get more faster, then a buck or two drawn out over months, if it lasts that long.

it says it's only since 2009 ?

Location does make a difference if its updating around the world tho, that takes time for it to do. I tried other browsers, and a different IP but not there. No big deal, will just try later!

Its weird because I all the sudden see ads coming again, but I cant see the site... oh! maybe it is on a new server and is updating around the world (and I cant see it yet)

Funguppy keeps growing and growing. The owner is a very longterm site owner - like 22 years or 23 years now.

There is someone sending an ad on his own safelists pointing to links about this, going back to 2013 to current, to forum threads, including this one. I mean they are sending this on his own safelist... It's sad really. I saw this email yesterday

I meant, it lists 70 now, if you see this let me know if that works better :-)

Glad you like it Clare !! :-) (AND Shane :-) btw check your email later tonight, I was swamped earlier with site work but catching up!!

I just made the list longer over there :-)

I was in the "preferred" program early, one of the early people who had no delay. I was loaned 10,000's of dollars in Capitial from them when I wanted it, I have been with them for a LONG time - nearly since they started, I had paypal credit going also. Processed MILLIONS of dollars through them (yes, millions) with a less than 1%, barely there refund rate (including chargeback which was very rare) .... have good credit, long credit, and I am verifiable on things. But yet they got mine. Dont know how many times I have to post it everywhere but its NOT JUST about traffic exchanges and safelists. It is happening EVERYWHERE, in every arena. Apparently, they are doing away with digital services and goods. Which explains the gaming arena, people who sell graphics, people who buy the stuff also. Anyone connected with it. This is 100,000's of websites and people ...so if not now, it will be later. Those who thought they made too much, or that they were special and ppal would never get them and even told their members that, they eventually did get them. * * * They are DEFINITELY watching site owners and who they pay also. Which explains to me why there are sudden surges of closed accounts. One after another. They are not just getting big sellers. They are also getting people who sell nothing but buy. It does not matter the volumn. Everyone should get off the paypal teat immediately. Putting it BACK on your sites will just mess you up again. I wouldnt use it for anything, not even Door Dash, Grub hub, to buy soap online, etc use the sites actual merchant account instead because that site will pass paypal middleman fee's onto you.

Yay! :-) #1EasyBitcoin is exploding it seems