Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K

Thank You!! :-) (and glad you like 50aday too

Oh I forgot about those, partners, do you mean the ones who invested into the profit shares? And BTW, hope my last post made some sense... seriously just woke up and posted that this morning!

I plan to have it on my Autumn site launch soon

Well I dont think it was this way before. It used to be normal for many years, then some same scripted sites and hearing things here and there, then suddenly "17 launches/relaunches" using the same script on each for the past "15 months" and some rumors / gossips. But I thought... eh... just doing things the very very very very very easy way just using the same script everywhere while making a "network".... some buy up a bunch of sites to make a "network" and some just use the same script everywhere to make a "network", or both. .... but then .... hearing so many talk of owed money is really a true surprise to me! So many others must not know either.

STP and Bitcoin is easy for international though. still surprised. 1 or 2 people can be a mistake. I even do that (then fix it). But like I said, this isnt the only place I have been seeing people say this.

Know that there is something inside you that is greater than any obstacle. - Author Christian D. Larson

where is the facebook group? you mentioned that earlier, I am curious

I actually have a couple of sites that give that choice, but then I saw email addresses such as hotspotmailer@gmail.... (or any other 1 of the sites) and thought "hmmmm they can track if their email is sold or passed around by someone and will think its me doing it if Viagra people start emailing them". Haha so that is another reason its a dead option on my sites. Especially with all the extreme rules happening in the past couple of years too

That is why referral mailers are programmed into a site (that is what they are for). A long, long time ago it was normal to give out your signups email address. Not anymore. Not for at least a decade. It is a breach of privacy and opens the signup up to being spammed, and their email being sold to numerous spam lists... basically they will never get off, ever. That is why a list of emails is not just shown on sites.

So... basically those who don't get their commissions should just shut up (so the next guy doesn't get his either and it keeps going on)? But this particulair post is a cut of the profits on sites, buying into a share of them, and not getting those. I've been hearing about both (commissions and the profit share parts)

They are not some huge company or anything. They are just like me, or darren olander or the rest. All can easily just walk away if they want to with no consequences. it's by choice. .... and apparently they have as I see both their forums taken over from spambots for months now. People complaining about not being paid (publicly), support not answered for months, and one has went back to his offline job for good. The other is into steemit, the other one is trying to make it on youtube. They wiped all traces of their sites from their twitters. *crickets*

Thank you for saying that ! It reminds me to keep at it and why (working on the sites so hard). Stamina: coffee... all day all night... constant huge supply... and a ton of vitamins haha

Well I guess I look at it in 2 ways: (1) people catch on and get it so they quit buying the very same thing repeatedly and/or (2) they quit them as time goes on as the first handful of clones does the job, so if you buy the last ones - waste of money because activity dies on the last ones. I agree, you are valuable. Anyone who promotes and gets signups, or even TRIES to do so, is valuable. And... I'm shocked. I really am about no payouts or support tickets. And the amount of people complaining about: John Bell, Timtech people, Robert Puddy (script commissions), Mathew Graves, Adtroopers owner... and I know there are more... but forget. And the giant Mass Exit for 2 years now on numerous little sites.

Awww Pop Easy :-) ...anyway, just filter emails into a folder and look at them when you want.

I saw a poll about this and it didnt look good, not sure where it was. And another post about this in this forum. What is weird is that every list site is the same script on every site it looks like? He should have left his orginial sites alone and not clone each one from 1 thing. The orginial sites was what the internet marketing world used to consist of, well most of it, before cloning became some sort of fad or expectation.

What is odd about this, I'm a programmer and I have my own blacklist script to block hotmail and such (hotmail is a minor email provider now btw). It is very easy to go into the database and click Delete on gmail, boom, its off the blacklist. Did you try other providers such as a yahoo email addy? I'm curious. Gmail is the #1 email provider now. I just saw a study at returnpath (dot) com, about that.

Self proclaimed experts smudge how long they have been online and how successful they were. I also forgot to mention the TE's, Trafficg and Clickvoyager. They are still alive too. But there are many many many out there. Again, TE's are not dead, but it is in their best financial interest to tell people that they are dead.

On some yes, or maybe 1 or two actually. I was just making a point that there is a whole different world other than that one small area. It is alive and well and has been for decades.

I've been seeing, in a certain part of this arena, that they are saying "TE's are Dead" or that they "will be in a year" or "dying". It is propaganda. It's THAT part of the arena that has been squashed. ..."that part" meaning this closed off, cultish, small part of the arena that was separated from the real internet marketing world out there. Their followers follow every word of their teachers, webinars, false knowledge and even false history of how long they have been in business or the false level of success that they had in the online world before 2010-2016. In those years, that part exploded in which alot of people moved from being affiliates of sites and programs... to being sudden site owners and so everyone and their momma had a TE or a mailer. But they werent told that having a carbon copy of a script, or even partially 'custom' modified, and competing with 1000 other sites .. that it would be an eventual problem. Believe me, it is NOT the first time it happened. A script has been sold to death before. On the other end, people were also told to invest into trafficmonsoon, collect badges, collect coins, surf for pennies, and basically whatever made them money, they told their followers to do it - and they did because they had respect for them - based on FALSE history told, and/or schmoozing. Back to the scripts: The same site script being sold over and over again ... just with a different domain name, theme and graphics. Of course it was severely downgraded ALREADY before ppal and monsoon happened, in that part of the arena or "industry" as they call it. It just made the scripts sellers, 'launch manager', badge and coin collecting sites, etc a lot of money.... then they use excuses such as: penny surfers, paypal, trafficmonsoon, to jump ship or blame the collapse on the very people who followed them and bought from them. You know... "they dont embrace change", "they are just penny surfers", "they dont want to invest or learn", "offering money for surfing did it"..... etc...etc... ...while many ended up losing thousands a piece who bought into the propaganda (false info and teachings), mods, launch managers, follow my 'friends' new launch, etc. What gets me is that its not dead in the real internet marketing world and straight up BS if anyone says it. Is easyhits4u dead? Is Trafficadbar dead? Leadsleap? What about the others? Or even my own? No. Still alive and kicking. They ARE traffic exchanges with or without variances. So if someone who used to praise it galore and make tons of money off people teaching about it, suddenly says its dead and want you to go to crypto.... think long and hard about how they have abandoned that very thing they called themselves a teacher on (traffic exchanges) before doing it. So... if someone else says its dead but viral mailers are the next it thing.... think long and hard on why the person who used to teach people and praise TE's... and sell those scripts... now want you to follow them into viral mailers (*cough* safelist in disguise). Think long and hard again because, I'm sorry, that has been around literally 20 years and has been the trend for - 20 years. It is NOT new. Paypal didnt kill them. Trafficmonsoon didnt kill them, in which they actually benefited greatly from trafficmonsoon btw. I saw it myself, I saw the webinar(s) with scoville that they had, and the biggie: Scoville told me himself how much they benefited. Also. There is NO difference of a viral mailer to a safelist or a plain mailer, period. It's a ploy to make it sound special and something different from the usual email advertising safelist. They are not viral and nothing different. Stop spreading false words. So again: TE is not dead. But the inexperienced teaching the inexperienced is. Thanks for letting me scream. -Maryanne Myers

Soren, Nope. Not true. I hear all the time how they DO get signups from them. Safelists (aka "viral mailer") actually are a group interested in the same thing. So of course they snag signups.

ripple or XRP is a good thing.

I'm actually hopeful about CPS coin, so much so I stockpiled 3K of them so far, and put them in a vault for awhile

Hi John! :-)

I think the launch or release is Aug 4th. right now they are giving out $10 to new signups (and the referrers), just like paypal did back in the day, so its a good way to gain traction. But anyway I am pretty sure that they can be converted into something else when it fully opens in july or august.

Wow, that surprises me. Has it always been that way? But I did see a poll somewhere recently where they were asking if they ever got their commissions and didnt look good.