Matthew Graves.

[Margot Lawrence]

Does MATTHEW GRAVES owe you money? If so, you're not alone!

 

Once a respected online marketing "guru", Matthew has turned to the dark side in the last couple of years, and now owes large amounts of money to large numbers of people.

 

His "Site Partners" scheme (or should I say scam?) appears to be a dead duck - I haven't managed to find a single partner who has received their earnings from the sites on which they were supposed to be partners, and the Facebook group for partners has had all members & posts removed - probably because all the posts were from people wondering when (if?) they would receive their earnings.

 

Matthew doesn't have a proper support ticket system - a "red flag" in itself - and doesn't reply to emails from people asking for the money they're owed.

 

Ironically, his mailers are well designed & have a good number of responsive members, so they are still worth joining - just don't bother paying for an upgrade, this man doesn't deserve any more of other people's money.

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

I saw a poll about this and it didnt look good, not sure where it was. And another post about this in this forum.

 

What is weird is that every list site is the same script on every site it looks like?

He should have left his orginial sites alone and not clone each one from 1 thing.

The orginial sites was what the internet marketing world used to consist of, well most of it, before cloning became some sort of fad or expectation.

[Darren Olander]

I saw a poll about this and it didnt look good, not sure where it was. And another post about this in this forum.

 

What is weird is that every list site is the same script on every site it looks like?

He should have left his orginial sites alone and not clone each one from 1 thing.

The orginial sites was what the internet marketing world used to consist of, well most of it, before cloning became some sort of fad or expectation.

 

He has owed me money for years, I don't even try, but will also never promote his sites again... and I would have been quite valuable to keep around.

 

I also agree about original sites, I LOVE them and wish there were more of them, it is a bummer to see all these clones... even if you use the same script.. try to create something new that stands out instead of another me too site. But anyway, results matter, so if someone is using a clone and I can get good advertising results on it.. that's fine with me too I guess

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

Well I guess I look at it in 2 ways:

(1) people catch on and get it so they quit buying the very same thing repeatedly and/or

(2) they quit them as time goes on as the first handful of clones does the job, so if you buy the last ones - waste of money because activity dies on the last ones.

 

I agree, you are valuable. Anyone who promotes and gets signups, or even TRIES to do so, is valuable.

 

And... I'm shocked. I really am about no payouts or support tickets. And the amount of people complaining about: John Bell, Timtech people, Robert Puddy (script commissions), Mathew Graves, Adtroopers owner... and I know there are more... but forget.

 

And the giant Mass Exit for 2 years now on numerous little sites.

[Kevin J Timothy]

Well this explains A LOT. For the past handful of years I always thought his sites were suspect. Hits not being delivered, and sketchy commissions. Thanks for this update!

[Zanezim]

He has owed me money for years, I don't even try, but will also never promote his sites again... and I would have been quite valuable to keep around.

 

I also agree about original sites, I LOVE them and wish there were more of them, it is a bummer to see all these clones... even if you use the same script.. try to create something new that stands out instead of another me too site. But anyway, results matter, so if someone is using a clone and I can get good advertising results on it.. that's fine with me too I guess

 

 

One thing for sure, his sites get traffic

[mavwrek2017]

Yes...yes he does owe me several hundred.

 

It turns out that Matthew has selective Alzheimer's when he owes people money.

[ulikotek]

have a subscription for 10 solos at Supercharded Solo Ads,last month money was taken but account not credited with 10 solos,no response to support emails,how do you cancel the subscription ? don't see any option

[mavwrek2017]

have a subscription for 10 solos at Supercharded Solo Ads,last month money was taken but account not credited with 10 solos,no response to support emails,how do you cancel the subscription ? don't see any option

Login into Supercharged Solos, click "Account" and then click "Remove Your Account".

[ulikotek]

Login into Supercharged Solos, click "Account" and then click "Remove Your Account".

thanks,just did that

[rpsmith]

I'm confused here. Does Matthew Graves own adtroopers too? Can someone recommend a responsive mailing list?

[mavwrek2017]

I'm confused here. Does Matthew Graves own adtroopers too? Can someone recommend a responsive mailing list?

No Bo Tipton does...however he has been a ghost lately.

 

All of Darren's safelists are very responsive.

[mavwrek2017]

thanks,just did that

Another thing try reaching out to Matt here https://www.facebook.com/websbest

[rpsmith]

No Bo Tipton does...however he has been a ghost lately.

 

All of Darren's safelists are very responsive.

urls?

[mavwrek2017]

urls?

http://www.adchiever.com/index.php?

 

http://buildmydownlines.com/

 

http://www.downlinemaxx.com/index.php?

 

http://www.listjumper.com/index.php?

 

http://www.listsurfing.com/index.php

 

http://www.viralnugget.com/members/index.php?

[nathangurley]

Glad I found this! 

 

I had just purchased some solo ads from 
SuperChargedSoloAds recently and had a question.  I could only find 

a support email address and I did not get a reply.  

 

Thanks for the information.

 

[Clare Bowen]

The sites are down pending a server move. I've just paused a lot of banners from the Your Viral Banner rotator site from displaying in our mailers because their links are currently broken. A lot of banner impression credits are going to go to waste all over the show unfortunately. I hope at least for the sake of people using this, that the sites are back up soon.

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[Zanezim]

There is a thing called risk in which everybody knows when the money is put on the table. Learn by your mistakes and move on.

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

There is a thing called risk in which everybody knows when the money is put on the table. Learn by your mistakes and move on.

 

So... basically those who don't get their commissions should just shut up (so the next guy doesn't get his either and it keeps going on)?

But this particulair post is a cut of the profits on sites, buying into a share of them, and not getting those.

I've been hearing about both (commissions and the profit share parts)

[Darren Olander]

So... basically those who don't get their commissions should just shut up (so the next guy doesn't get his either and it keeps going on)?

But this particulair post is a cut of the profits on sites, buying into a share of them, and not getting those.

I've been hearing about both (commissions and the profit share parts)

 

I think it is really important to call these things out, so it is in the public.. people can do a google search and look up someone's reputation pretty easily. It helps people know who to avoid.

[Margot Lawrence]

Matthew is currently advertising for new Site Partners - $500 per position

 

https://websbest.samcart.com/products/partner-onepage

 

And also for new coaching clients, $2,497 per year!

 

https://websbest.samcart.com/products/quick-start-coach-inner-circle

 

DON'T waste your money, people - you won't see a penny back :-(

[rpsmith]

Why should anybody want to buy from him when he is proving to be so unreliable at paying his affiliates?

[Darren Olander]

Why should anybody want to buy from him when he is proving to be so unreliable at paying his affiliates?

 

Most people don't know, so hopefully this thread will raise some awareness.

[Michael Harris]

I have used Matthews sites for a few years now and have to agree that something has been wrong for a while. It's a shame though as it has been said by several people, his sites did have potential. But truthfully, I have to admit I never got any traction from all the ads I ran in his sites. Never not one good lead. Hard to admit I didn't listen to my inner voice, lol. thanks for the info though. 

[rpsmith]

I tend to agree. Calling him out will accomplish one of two things: People will get wise to his crap and ignore him and force him to find another way to make money or suddenly turn honest and start paying. Though from what I have read, I'm betting the former not the latter.