Matthew Graves.

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

 Unfortunatly I Was Conned By Him In His Scam It Starts Like This

 

 In His Fake Charity Scams

 

 He Was Selling A 13,000+ Downline LifeTime And A Premium Lifetime Membership For $200

 In WebizInsider To Help A Women Called Shirley Who Supposidly Had Cancer

 I Brought A Downline And Premium So All Was Fine For A While But Then Webizinsider Was

 Relaunched I Lost All My Downline I Was Down To 20 Members It Was To Late To Get My Money

 Back So He Offered Another Premium Membership To Compinsate Months When By Excuses

 Were Made So I Decided To Tell Him What A Thief And Scammer He Is I Speak My Mind If I Been

 Conned I Will Call A Person A Thief Scammer I Tell It How It Is I'm Not One For Liking

 For People Losing There PayPal Accounts But With Him I Cheered And Clapped

 

 

Oh yeah... I remember that. It was to several different people then it stopped. I thought it was a month, so it was months went by? And then tell you that you just didnt like how much time went by before you got the upgrade?

 

This just isnt right and its gone on for years it seems

[weblord]

one thing i know no one will win this online war. i think banning of websites is ok and the group has been warned when he/she will submit an ad containing any of his website it will not work.

I'm flattered.. that you say that. but I dont think this type of bad publicity gets 'em free advertising, quite fits the situation here tho. This is different. LOL if anyone is getting free advertising, its this forum! hehehe

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

Now people know its not just them though, and they arent alone. I COULD put alot more about this, but I think its enough on my end.

BTW, did you just put in a support ticket about BTC? I just want to make sure its you and will do it when I come back online tomorrow

[weblord]

lol yeah it's me weblord, yes about asking for payout since i was trying to update my earnings payout payment method, i don't have those other ways of getting paid on your page, we are very limited here, all i have is paypal and bitcoin, and i think bitcoin is much better than paypal. lol

Now people know its not just them though, and they arent alone. I COULD put alot more about this, but I think its enough on my end.

BTW, did you just put in a support ticket about BTC? I just want to make sure its you and will do it when I come back online tomorrow

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

Has anyone see this video and all the other people commenting about the same thing happening to everyone else here?

 

 

I recognize some of them too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iaJ4EFMq7c

[weblord]

well too many things to do so little time for me. no need to show proof im on your side.

Has anyone see this video and all the other people commenting about the same thing happening to everyone else here?

 

 

I recognize some of them too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iaJ4EFMq7c

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

lol yeah it's me weblord, yes about asking for payout since i was trying to update my earnings payout payment method, i don't have those other ways of getting paid on your page, we are very limited here, all i have is paypal and bitcoin, and i think bitcoin is much better than paypal. lol

 

Oh, BTC is perfect, I prefer to pay people with bitcoin actually. I just sent it to you. And it is, I'm surprised you still have pp really

[weblord]

Shh they might hear it and close it down, well i don't use it as much to charge people for my services i use coinpayments maybe that's it and always i keep my balance there, and withdraw always just safety purposes and during the old, old days i used to charge people via western union, clickbank or via ccnow.

 

yes i received a payout in profitslion. you're the greatest.

Oh, BTC is perfect, I prefer to pay people with bitcoin actually. I just sent it to you. And it is, I'm surprised you still have pp really

[Paula Frye]

He has owned me money for years. At first I thought my notes were just bouncing, but now I see that's probably not the case. It especially angers me because I had paid him a couple thousand for one of his partner spots a couple of years ago. I was all excited when I saw the results ... until I realized I wasn't going to be paid. I'm glad to see you all posting about this here, because I really thought it was just me. I've no idea how he can do that to people. Now I'm wondering if he pays anyone. 

 

Paula

 

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

He has owned me money for years. At first I thought my notes were just bouncing, but now I see that's probably not the case. It especially angers me because I had paid him a couple thousand for one of his partner spots a couple of years ago. I was all excited when I saw the results ... until I realized I wasn't going to be paid. I'm glad to see you all posting about this here, because I really thought it was just me. I've no idea how he can do that to people. Now I'm wondering if he pays anyone. 

 

Paula

 

 

Pays a handful it seems, and certain people pay just the handful so that handful will keep promoting AND will come to their defense, most ponzi programs do this, its an old tactic.

There are alot more saying the same as you are, they just aren't in this forum.

So you arent alone and years of it on many people - is not an accident.

What is sickening recently, that someone forwarded me an email and demanded their refund or a replacement from Graves because they spent a few hundred and it was just taken away. 5 weeks later still did not have it. So he said he was going to tell others online about it.

Graves response said that telling anyone "does not hurt his success" and another time, he wrote he is so "successful" again.

This arrogant attitude is because they believe they are talking to someone small, and it cant hurt them. But time does! Because more and more people are speaking up.

 

You arent alone Paula! BTW "consulting multi million dollar clients but does the internet on the side" (as a hobby) is BS! and I know for a fact. I can recite three different histories that he has told on why/how he is this arena. I read them all for years.

[weblord]

one scammer i know and it goes by the name "camel" they keep on changing their domain name but you can tell it always contain the word camel.

but now their latest domain name has closed down again and im sure theyre coming with that 1 million dollar domain name again and i'm looking forward to it, actually set my google to alarm me by way of google alerts

like i said i will never look on a camel again online.

Pays a handful it seems, and certain people pay just the handful so that handful will keep promoting AND will come to their defense, most ponzi programs do this, its an old tactic.

There are alot more saying the same as you are, they just aren't in this forum.

So you arent alone and years of it on many people - is not an accident.

What is sickening recently, that someone forwarded me an email and demanded their refund or a replacement from Graves because they spent a few hundred and it was just taken away. 5 weeks later still did not have it. So he said he was going to tell others online about it.

Graves response said that telling anyone "does not hurt his success" and another time, he wrote he is so "successful" again.

This arrogant attitude is because they believe they are talking to someone small, and it cant hurt them. But time does! Because more and more people are speaking up.

 

You arent alone Paula! BTW "consulting multi million dollar clients but does the internet on the side" (as a hobby) is BS! and I know for a fact. I can recite three different histories that he has told on why/how he is this arena. I read them all for years.

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

Here is the more updated list - 36 websites:

 

 

unlockyourlist
quickstartcoach
unlockyourwealthpotential
yourviralbanners
hotlistmailer (NOT hotspotmailer - I own the hotspotmailer one)
legendsmailer
yourvirallist
toptiertraffic
websbestmailer
websbesttraffic
splashpagetraffic
webbizinsider
SocialMessageConnect
InstantProfitMailer
WebsBestMailer
100PercentMailer
splittestmailer
TopTierMailer
100percenttraffic
superchargedsoloads
whatworks4me
yoursuccessadvantage
EmailMarketingMasters
InstantProfitMailer
10XMailer
secretlaunchteam
websbestmarketing
guaranteedadprofit
autofreeleads
ysa10
ysa1
ysa5

allactivemailer

splashpagesurfer

yourviraltraffic.com

yourviralmailer.com

[Paula Frye]

Pays a handful it seems, and certain people pay just the handful so that handful will keep promoting AND will come to their defense, most ponzi programs do this, its an old tactic.

There are alot more saying the same as you are, they just aren't in this forum.

So you arent alone and years of it on many people - is not an accident.

What is sickening recently, that someone forwarded me an email and demanded their refund or a replacement from Graves because they spent a few hundred and it was just taken away. 5 weeks later still did not have it. So he said he was going to tell others online about it.

Graves response said that telling anyone "does not hurt his success" and another time, he wrote he is so "successful" again.

This arrogant attitude is because they believe they are talking to someone small, and it cant hurt them. But time does! Because more and more people are speaking up.

 

You arent alone Paula! BTW "consulting multi million dollar clients but does the internet on the side" (as a hobby) is BS! and I know for a fact. I can recite three different histories that he has told on why/how he is this arena. I read them all for years.

That is so wrong of him. The support system problem and emails going unanswered sure did make me wonder. I quit selling his products as soon as I quit getting paid. I wondered why the payout process asks for your bank account routing number. That is scary so I wasn't about to give that to him. You always pay, Maryanne! I haven't been advertising as much lately but need to get back into it. I sure appreciate those who pay!  

[Paula Frye]

That is a lot of websites! It makes you wonder how he keeps them all going if no one is getting paid. You would think people would run him off the Internet. I'm sure there are many not getting paid at all. 

 

 

Here is the more updated list - 36 websites:

 

 

unlockyourlist
quickstartcoach
unlockyourwealthpotential
yourviralbanners
hotlistmailer (NOT hotspotmailer - I own the hotspotmailer one)
legendsmailer
yourvirallist
toptiertraffic
websbestmailer
websbesttraffic
splashpagetraffic
webbizinsider
SocialMessageConnect
InstantProfitMailer
WebsBestMailer
100PercentMailer
splittestmailer
TopTierMailer
100percenttraffic
superchargedsoloads
whatworks4me
yoursuccessadvantage
EmailMarketingMasters
InstantProfitMailer
10XMailer
secretlaunchteam
websbestmarketing
guaranteedadprofit
autofreeleads
ysa10
ysa1
ysa5

allactivemailer

splashpagesurfer

yourviraltraffic.com

yourviralmailer.com

[weblord]

are they on 1 ip address or 1 dedicated server?

Here is the more updated list - 36 websites:

 

 

unlockyourlist
quickstartcoach
unlockyourwealthpotential
yourviralbanners
hotlistmailer (NOT hotspotmailer - I own the hotspotmailer one)
legendsmailer
yourvirallist
toptiertraffic
websbestmailer
websbesttraffic
splashpagetraffic
webbizinsider
SocialMessageConnect
InstantProfitMailer
WebsBestMailer
100PercentMailer
splittestmailer
TopTierMailer
100percenttraffic
superchargedsoloads
whatworks4me
yoursuccessadvantage
EmailMarketingMasters
InstantProfitMailer
10XMailer
secretlaunchteam
websbestmarketing
guaranteedadprofit
autofreeleads
ysa10
ysa1
ysa5

allactivemailer

splashpagesurfer

yourviraltraffic.com

yourviralmailer.com

[weblord]

can you still remember me? long time no chat, you are one of my subscribers on weblord's newsletter way back 1999

He has owned me money for years. At first I thought my notes were just bouncing, but now I see that's probably not the case. It especially angers me because I had paid him a couple thousand for one of his partner spots a couple of years ago. I was all excited when I saw the results ... until I realized I wasn't going to be paid. I'm glad to see you all posting about this here, because I really thought it was just me. I've no idea how he can do that to people. Now I'm wondering if he pays anyone. 

 

Paula

[Darren Olander]

It's actually disgusting that someone can get away with cheating people for so long, this thread was started like 14 months ago, but it's been going on for many years already...  

[Margot Lawrence]

It's actually disgusting that someone can get away with cheating people for so long, this thread was started like 14 months ago, but it's been going on for many years already...

 

I know :-(

 

When I started the thread, I thought that there might be some interest for a couple of weeks and that it would then tail off and the thread would die, as most other threads do. I had no idea that I'd find that Matthew Graves had ripped off so many people, in so many different ways, over the course of so many years.

 

I don't know if Matthew is a member here, but I'm sure he must be aware of this thread. He has had 14 months to post a message defending himself, but, so far, nothing... :-(

[rondn]

No wonder he don't pay. He has too many sites to keep up with. I have used some of his sites, but never upgraded.

I sure wont now after reading this.

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

Its not hard, it just takes time to do and dedication. He's not programming and designing them (so there should be plenty of time to do the usual stuff which is only answering and paying people their owed)

[mlmpronews]

Hi

Glad  I found this tread. I dont know what to do. I upgraded in Matthew Grawes Splittest mailer, and was so stupid to use my cc.
I cancelled my upgrade 8 months ago, but still he is charging my cc every month.

I tried to write support several times, no answer.
The charges are from webs best marketing.

It really have irritated me a long time, but I thought he would react sooner or later and stop the charges.
However, today I got really scared when logging in to my bank account.
I now see 3 charges from webs best marketing this month!

Glad i found this tread, however if anyone knows how I can get in contact with him

all help will be appreciated.

Looks like I have no option but to call my bank and close my cc.

A really hasle that I was hoping to not have to do.

Reading the tread I realize the guy is a big time scammer.

He must be stopped.

 

Have a great day

Rune F

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

You call or login to your credit card account and dispute the charges. Since you have been writing to cancel with no response, they will refund usually 3 months of charges and prevent any future charges. No need to close your card account down. If its through paypal, I think it's up to 6 months of them. But I would just do it with your card.

 

Anyone can stop a subscription that way if the person wont stop rebilling you

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

I know :-(

 

When I started the thread, I thought that there might be some interest for a couple of weeks and that it would then tail off and the thread would die, as most other threads do. I had no idea that I'd find that Matthew Graves had ripped off so many people, in so many different ways, over the course of so many years.

 

I don't know if Matthew is a member here, but I'm sure he must be aware of this thread. He has had 14 months to post a message defending himself, but, so far, nothing... :-(

 

If I was him, I would not come because it would be hard to defend not paying someone out for over a year who invested 2 grand, or those who commissions were wiped out into the hundreds each. It is way more people than what is being posted here. This goes back years and actually, several years ago - I think it was 2013- another site owner told me that the 'coaching' program was alive then and that his friend lost thousands.

And as for no answers, hard to defend when you go on vacation from canada to florida to your 2nd house many times a year. That is alot of free time.

 

Yes, I was about to message you to tell you to come back and look at your thread post thinking that you havent for awhile since you started it. I have now heavily linked to this thread about a week or so ago and more are coming to tell their stories.

[blessnic2019]

Too bad. I just discovered his sites and was thinking of promoting them but can see that will be a waste of time. I should just use them to advertise my business offers and nothing more.

 

  I am seen many sites admins rejecting his websites promotion on their sites stating he is not paying. I wonder why he is not attending to all these issues and reports.

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

Too bad. I just discovered his sites and was thinking of promoting them but can see that will be a waste of time. I should just use them to advertise my business offers and nothing more.

 

  I am seen many sites admins rejecting his websites promotion on their sites stating he is not paying. I wonder why he is not attending to all these issues and reports.

 

Because they are true... so nothing to respond to?

 

Oh wow, who else is putting the info up?