Matthew Graves.

[downliner]

How in the world can he call me a "hater"?

1) I didnt make these people tell their true stories of paying alot of money for promises of 1 and 1/2 profit. And not pay it, and write smug replies, if any reply is given.

2) my network has more members than his.

3) I have been online as an owner, years longer than him.

4) I most likely make more money than him, and so do my members and I actually pay them. Seemingly since I dont run fake charities, post promises of cash and say I do this as a hobby but my real job is consulting clients who make millions. (who does that unless they really need to snow people for cash?)

5) Every site I have is 100% custom from scratch. I make the graphics. I program and design on a textpad, from scratch. And it takes alot of work!

So that over used "hater" tactic - fails here.

 

What she said

[ViralAdStore.com]

I paid him $500 in 2017 for membership into his site partner program. I'm supposedly co-owner on one of his sites.

 

Initially I could see commissions in the back office but no method of withdrawing. Now those commissions have been deleted and there's no way to cashout.

 

Matthew no longer replies to my emails.

 

I'll post here if anything changes.

[dilbert]

He owes me several thousand dollars since a October 2018. I have seen not a cent of it. So I am no longer promoting for him. 

[Donnie Ellis]

Hmm, on the one hand I'm glad to see that some people are being paid, but on the other hand I'm sad to see that Matthew is paying out commissions that have been recently earned while still owing commissions earned several years ago - obviously, the older debts should have been paid first.

 

Donnie, don't you feel even slightly uncomfortable now that you know that the money that Matthew paid to you was, in effect, stolen from other people?

Margot, yes I am.  But honestly I can't and do not spend a lot of money on upgrades because I don't have it to spend.  So I have not made a large investment in his sites.  I have been scammed more than once and am very careful.  I don't like hearing this kind of information but still wanted to share my own experiences.

 

Honestly I would really like to see some of the good solid safelists and mailers add the opportunity to put leads in my own autoresponder account.  I would be upgrading and promoting a lot more lists.

 

Donnie Ellis

[Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K]

I always wondered tho.. do you see these email addresses (not just usernames or names)? How do you know if they are real or duplicates? As I programmer, I know you can list even the same email address 50 times = looks like 50 on the count especially if the system is assigning them to people, but make it email that same email address only once. Do you see them? I am just curious because I can gauge how popular a site is from watching what my members advertise, so seriously wonder.

[Donnie Ellis]

Yes I do see both user names and email addresses.  I can also download the members information from the different Your Viral Network sites.  I have all of the subscribers sent to Get Response on one list so that I can evaluate my stats and ROI.  There are no duplications on that list and also no bounces.

[ViralAdStore.com]

Yes I do see both user names and email addresses.  I can also download the members information from the different Your Viral Network sites.  I have all of the subscribers sent to Get Response on one list so that I can evaluate my stats and ROI.  There are no duplications on that list and also no bounces.

As for the duplicates, I think Maryanne means that everyone downloads the the same list. So if you download 500 email addresses then I also get the same 500 (duplicated)

 

I plugged my 500 into my autoresonder and literarily received 0 clicks. A lot also unsubscribed as they were probably fed up of being added to everyone elses autoresponder. That's if they used a good email address as most people don't.

 

Oh.... for what it's worth i still haven't been paid.

[ViralAdStore.com]

Woops...

Your Account Was Removed!

 

I guess the truth hurts Matthew.

[davehayes]

I'm confused here. Does Matthew Graves own adtroopers too? Can someone recommend a responsive mailing list?

I'm fairly certain that Bo, hasn't been well lately, he was very active on the wealthy affiliate community I'm part of, but then suddenly stopped being so, but is around other ad sites fairly regularly, or at least his ads are.

[Donnie Ellis]

Hey Dave, Nice to see a fellow Wealthy Affiliate member.  So am I.

[josetteisfree]

Hello Everyone,

 

I just joined here because I saw a post about scams and ripoffs.  When I saw that, I thought this would be a good place to keep up on.

 

Thank you so much for this info!

 

I've not done anything with my memberships at Matthew Graves safelists because he never responded to my emails.

 

I'll be removing my accounts for sure.

 

I think his sites are messed up anyway.  I have my account setup to send me the emails, and I get like one a week.

 

Thanks for sharing this website Darren!

 

Peace,

Josette
What Is Your Why?

The Neuro Nerd (still a work in progress)

[geomc57]

One thing for sure, his sites get traffic

It seems to me that Matthew severely slowed in his payments when Paypal went wild dumping so many TE and Safelist owners. I used to get paid on time every month, but has been close to a year now since I have received a payment, but he promises that in the next commission run I will see my earnings, lets see.

 

But his sites do get traffic, and I get a lot of JV partners and list sign ups from his sites. So I no longer, and for some time now, have not paid for any of his services. But almost all sites you can earn your upgrade. So I am upgraded in most sites and have not paid to do so. 

 

If I get my commissions this month as promised I will be back here to let you know. Actually, I let you know either way.

[downliner]

It seems to me that Matthew severely slowed in his payments when Paypal went wild dumping so many TE and Safelist owners. I used to get paid on time every month, but has been close to a year now since I have received a payment, but he promises that in the next commission run I will see my earnings, lets see.

 

But his sites do get traffic, and I get a lot of JV partners and list sign ups from his sites. So I no longer, and for some time now, have not paid for any of his services. But almost all sites you can earn your upgrade. So I am upgraded in most sites and have not paid to do so. 

 

If I get my commissions this month as promised I will be back here to let you know. Actually, I let you know either way.

 

So Geomc57 did you get paid? 

[geomc57]

So Geomc57 did you get paid?

No I did not. I am owed over $400 in commissions. That amount is based on 1. Minimums reached, 2. 30 day delayed payment in case of refund request. Both requirements have been reached or exceeded by over $400 in commissions.

[mylene]

Hi Everyone,

 

Just like sooo many of you Matthew is ignoring all my requests for commission payments.

 

I also invested 2 x $500 in his Site Partner programs in 2017.  Never got a penny in return.

 

I've stopped promoting any of his programs.

 

Thank you Darren for this Forum and thank you Margot for starting this thread.

[weblord]

I just found out a couple of days ago that he lost most of his domain names, too bad.

[lori65]

I have tried to email Matthew Graves numerous times about one of my accounts

with no replies.

 

I am in the process of deleting my accounts that I have with his mailers.

 

 

[atari100]

i have credits in many sites

my credits dissapeared

[rplaha]

I thought I was the only one to get scammed by this guy, looks like there is a boatload of people here.

Anyone interested in suing him?

He owes me for site partner commissions and for coaching that he never fulfilled.

[rplaha]

Does MATTHEW GRAVES owe you money? If so, you're not alone!

 

Once a respected online marketing "guru", Matthew has turned to the dark side in the last couple of years, and now owes large amounts of money to large numbers of people.

 

His "Site Partners" scheme (or should I say scam?) appears to be a dead duck - I haven't managed to find a single partner who has received their earnings from the sites on which they were supposed to be partners, and the Facebook group for partners has had all members & posts removed - probably because all the posts were from people wondering when (if?) they would receive their earnings.

 

Matthew doesn't have a proper support ticket system - a "red flag" in itself - and doesn't reply to emails from people asking for the money they're owed.

 

Ironically, his mailers are well designed & have a good number of responsive members, so they are still worth joining - just don't bother paying for an upgrade, this man doesn't deserve any more of other people's money.

 

 

Yes, he owes me money also, anyone interested in taking him to court?  I'm ready to do it myself but would be great if a few of us got involved.  Margot is right, "once a trusted person" is now a con man as per all the posts in here. Email me if you want to discuss, thank you. ranjit6788@yahoo.com

[rpsmith]

I'm surprised this thread is still going strong. Is Matthew Gravess still scamming people?

[rplaha]

I'm surprised this thread is still going strong. Is Matthew Gravess still scamming people?

 

 

Yep, he's still signing up new people. 

Funny thing is, people are posting within the traffic exchanges and mailers that they are owed money. 

This Matthew guy is really freaked up.

[rpsmith]

I am surprised to hear this. I lost track of him some time ago and thought he was gone.

[blessnic2019]

Top promoters are still using his websites to advertise. I am still using his sites too. The motivational messages from him looks amazing. More websites are getting launched by him.

 

You can use them for free. You can get Free Upgrades by referring Five People to the sites. 

[ViralAdStore.com]

Top promoters are still using his websites to advertise. I am still using his sites too. The motivational messages from him looks amazing. More websites are getting launched by him.

 

You can use them for free. You can get Free Upgrades by referring Five People to the sites. 

Please don't entertain a known scammer. This is why he's still going. Yes he's very clever.... a clever scammer. Avoid his sites altogether.