OnPassive and GoFounders thoughts

[firebyfifty]

Hi All,

 

I wasn't quite sure where to post this one and maybe the scam folder isn't the best place as I don't know that this is a scam.

 

But, I was extremely surprised when I typed in Onpassive in the search bar at this forum that there was nothing (that the search function found anyway).

 

So, while making it clear I do not necessarily believe OnPassive / GoFounders to be a scam, I would like to know every one else's thoughts.

 

I joined as a founder almost 18 months ago in July 2018 after watching a number of presentations. And I will be upgrading and trying the platform IF and WHEN it finally launches.

 

I haven't been able to watch a webinar in about 12 months now as they are all essentially the same pitch about how amazing onpassive, the founder/ owner and the apparent 40k + founders are. 

 

Now for $97 USD founder fee and 40k+ founders, the receiver of all these payments is sitting pretty on 3.8 million USD + with nothing to show for it except an affiliate backoffice in a program that is not THE program.

 

The age old saying of "If it looks to good to be true....." keeps popping in to my mind with this one.

 

They keep telling me that "Believe Believe Believe and things happen, we are building brand new, never seen before, need a NDA, no promotion needed, self building" etc etc etc, you know the drill.

 

Now I know that the people behind it have been successful in the past and I have respect for them all, but I have my own mind and am curious enough to want to know your thoughts as well as theirs.

 

So, I am interested in seeing if anyone has any thoughts, or indeed if I get kicked out of this forum or even onpassive for simply asking a question (again, I am a founder and I will be upgrading but I MAY be dreaming!).

 

Cheers

Nate

[Darren Olander]

I haven't heard of it, but as soon as you said "no promotion needed, self building" that is the biggest red flag that it is a scam.

[firebyfifty]

Yes,

 

There are many red flags but it really does have mass adoption for something that doesn't even exist yet and there is no 'real' explanation as to what it will do. They allude to a 'done for you' system and never ending leads so potentially it will be some sort of all in one page builder, AR etc etc that the owners plan to promote heavily somehow for all the members.

 

However the talk around 'never seen before', 'cannot fail', 'no promotion needed' etc is very concerning. 

 

I do not understand how 40k + people (assuming what the unlaunched platform states is true) can put so much faith in something without understanding the product/ value behind the whole thing.

 

I still hope to be proved wrong and maybe that is why it is doing so (seemingly) well, playing on people's hopes and dreams.

 

Nate

[Darren Olander]

Unfortunately scams are usually very good at luring tons of people in because it is exactly what people want to hear. I haven't met anyone yet that will put their own money and resources into promoting to make other people money.... if you can promote and make money you do it for yourself, not as a charity to tens of thousands of people.

[weblord]

one day i saw their splash page hosted on a free hosting which leads me to believe that something's wrong with this program the gofounders. if they have the money can't they afford a real paid web hosting like the rest of us do.

[firebyfifty]

Hi Weblord,

 

Yes, I have seen a whole range of similarly made free pages for onpassive and gofounders (same program gofounders is just a holding tank for his 'founders' before he launches onpassive).

 

The owner / company do have their own hosted sites and pages these days though but I totally agree that members making their own poor ad pages is another red flag.

 

Nate

[Glen Palo]

I wrote a review of Onpassive, which I recommend avoiding until it launches to see what it really is.

https://homebusinessforveterans.com/onpassive-review-reveals-risky-mlm-opportunity

[socialtech]

I've been a founder for OnPassive/GoFounders for a year and a half. If you seen what they are about to present to the public, you will be excited. This platform is incredible. We have a strong team and I know my family, team and I will be set for life. Ash is very passionate about this and it takes time to build something that no one has ever done before. It's about ready and will see OnPassive go public in the first quarter of 2020. It really will be change how we all do business. I for one spent $1000's on softwares, programs, platforms and very few really worked. I know in my heart that Ash will prevail and this will be a unicorn company very fast. Recently was licenced by the Federal Trade Commission as a IT Company. With hundreds of employees and corporate office in Florida, Development offices in California and India. I'd say it's very real.

 

Thanks,

Dave M.

[Glen Palo]

The launch date continues to slide to the right. So now they are saying the 1st quarter of 2020. That would be great as then we can see if it is for real. I have watched a number of promotional videos and understand the compensation plan is an MLM matrix. Members must have a recurring subscription starting at $25 a month to earn commissions. Each matrix increases in price ($25, $125, $250. $500). So the monthly cost is $900 for the 4 matrices.

 

The founder fee is not commissionable. It's been a few months since I watched the promotions. So I don't know if this info has changed.  I guess we will see next quarter.

[firebyfifty]

I've been a founder for OnPassive/GoFounders for a year and a half. If you seen what they are about to present to the public, you will be excited. This platform is incredible. We have a strong team and I know my family, team and I will be set for life. Ash is very passionate about this and it takes time to build something that no one has ever done before. It's about ready and will see OnPassive go public in the first quarter of 2020. It really will be change how we all do business. I for one spent $1000's on softwares, programs, platforms and very few really worked. I know in my heart that Ash will prevail and this will be a unicorn company very fast. Recently was licenced by the Federal Trade Commission as a IT Company. With hundreds of employees and corporate office in Florida, Development offices in California and India. I'd say it's very real.

 

Thanks,

Dave M.

 

Thanks Dave,

 

I appreciate your feedback and thoughts. 

[incomeskills]

I almost got lured in. I think it boiled down to the pathetic hypey presentations, that simply would talk about what it isn't and how they will achieve what no other online business has been able to achieve.

 

If it walks like a duck...

[firebyfifty]

I've been a founder for OnPassive/GoFounders for a year and a half. If you seen what they are about to present to the public, you will be excited. This platform is incredible. We have a strong team and I know my family, team and I will be set for life. Ash is very passionate about this and it takes time to build something that no one has ever done before. It's about ready and will see OnPassive go public in the first quarter of 2020. It really will be change how we all do business. I for one spent $1000's on softwares, programs, platforms and very few really worked. I know in my heart that Ash will prevail and this will be a unicorn company very fast. Recently was licenced by the Federal Trade Commission as a IT Company. With hundreds of employees and corporate office in Florida, Development offices in California and India. I'd say it's very real.

 

Thanks,

Dave M.

 

Hey Dave,

 

I would be interested in your thoughts and how they have progressed as the launch becomes more imminent?

 

I am still a founder and have a very small referral base and some hope, but also some doubt.

 

As time has passed, have your thoughts evolved, or become more firm?

 

Cheers

Nate

[weblord]

still no final date when will they launch?

[firebyfifty]

still no final date when will they launch?

 

I don't know, I don't have the time to watch the constant webinars that (at the time when I was watching them) didn't provide any real info. I will go and watch a recent one when I get a chance and let you know.

 

Cheers

Nate

[weblord]

ok. thank you very much. keep us posted on this thread.

 

 

I don't know, I don't have the time to watch the constant webinars that (at the time when I was watching them) didn't provide any real info. I will go and watch a recent one when I get a chance and let you know.

 

Cheers

Nate

 

[downliner]

I was warned about GoFounders last year when the hype train was on full Steam ahead. When you are being invited to a program where the profits are the priority to the discussion rather than the actual product and its benefits exercise caution. 

[firebyfifty]

Anyone know if this thing is still in "pre launch"?

 

Must be about 2 years now

[Glen Palo]

The launch date continues to slide to the right. So now they are saying the 1st quarter of 2020. That would be great as then we can see if it is for real. I have watched a number of promotional videos and understand the compensation plan is an MLM matrix. Members must have a recurring subscription starting at $25 a month to earn commissions. Each matrix increases in price ($25, $125, $250. $500). So the monthly cost is $900 for the 4 matrices.

 

The founder fee is not commissionable. It's been a few months since I watched the promotions. So I don't know if this info has changed.  I guess we will see next quarter.

1st quarter has come and gone. The question now is whether Onpassive will launch before its third prelaunch anniversary in July.

[grygry]

Passive began in 2018 , when I joined and when GoPassive was advertised as Limited membership !

As to OnPassive going public in the first quarter of 200, that did Not happen, as I still get join OnPassive emails in May 2021

There are planty of reviews taht also agree it is a scam

 

https://maketimeonline.com/is-onpassive-a-scam

https://themakemoneyonlineblog.com/is-onpassive-a-scam/

[Rossbell]

I can understand from the point of view that ONPASSIVE has been around for about two years now and yet it hasn't been launched, therefore it would seem to be a big Scam. But I beg to differ, with enough evidences to substantiate my position.

 

It's about two years now since I joined ONPASSIVE and it's true the long wait is a Big Experience in Patience and hope! But as one of the Founders who have followed the Company's progress, I see

enough evidences that ONPASSIVE is NOT a Scam.

 

Firstly, when it was first conceived the idea was to simply develop a type of MLM company in which No one was left behind. Its Founder/Creator, Mr. Ash, shared his vision of a Business in which everything would be 100% fully on Autopilot, and anyone regardless of their experience or lack thereof, would be enabled to Passively earn enough income or a fortune without all the frustration and lies as we well know exist so prevalently online today.

 

As time progressed, it was realized that the company would have to develop its own proprietary internet utilities and tools if it desired the output envisioned. Gradually, ONPASSIVE evolved into a full IT company having to create scores of innovative proprietary tools and programs to enhance the experience of its global membership. That necessitated amassing an expert team of IT specialists, setting up about three headquarters offices in India and the USA, with hundreds of workers being paid substantially reasonable salaries for their ongoing services. It's clear that Mr.Ash has invested possibly $Millions already in this business which hasn't even launched yet. That itself is evidence enough that ONPASSIVE is here for the long haul and is no scam.

 

By the way, we have other hard evidences that this is going to help transform the lives of the masses for good because our IT teams have already developed scores of never-before-seen proprietary systems and tools which are gradually being introduced to the over 662,000 Founders of ONPASSIVE already. It's no gimmick or make-belief scheme: certainly Not a scam.

We are still patiently waiting for the right time to launch, so it's a good time to get onboard.

I would definitely recommend that you invest the $97 GoFounder's fee to begin and I can provide you the links or info to start this new phase of progress in your future.

 

For Info & Registration go to:

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/yy2tdgcr

 

 

Regards,

Robert B

[aditya]

The company is getting enough funds to pay software people to develop the products. What will be their pricing and will they be accepted in the market is yet to be seen. Till now they should have launched atleast one usable product out of 10 that they are declaring that are ready.

[andybarnes]

There is a very simple definition:

 

If a company has no product...charges for membership.....only pays commission to those who have paid membership......then

It is is PONZI Scheme!

[Glen Palo]

The third anniversary of the pre-launch is rapidly approaching.

 

If OnPassive has as many founders as they say they do, do they have a robust financial system in place to account for the monthly payments due from members to cover the matrix payments and the subsequent commission payments? Have they collected the personal financial info the U.S. IRS requires?

 

Can they deliver?

[richrock]

I was in it, and got a refund a long time ago, seems like a scam to me how long can it take to launch a business? Me friends who are in it says yes it is launching soon now, yes they have been saying that for years. Will it launch? i was a betting bot I say safe bet - No. Not a fun of the owner and his attitude either but that is a personal thing.

[davehayes]

I am of the opinion that its not worth touching, since its been in 'launch' phase forever