eMail Reading problem

[Garrett Hutsko]

I use SL Genie all the time and am running into a  problem on some site within SL Genie.

For those not familiar with SL Genie it is a tool which helps to control use of over 200 Safelists.

On some of the sites in SL Genie I read the email and trigger the credit link. When I do the match process I get Incorrect Click which is an invalid message. The problem that I am running into is that the sites that I am trying to get credit in claim that SL Genie is the problem/cause of the problem. If that were true it should occur in all click links since this is a process that is simple and repeats over and over. SL Genie claims that this problem happens on a few sites because of the server that the site is using.

I am hoping that this email will reach the proper people, I think that the SL site can change a parameter on their site which will correct this problem. SL Genie is functioning similar to FireFox, IE and CHrome and does nothing that will change the way emails are handled.

[Garrett Hutsko]

SL Genie seem to have uncovered an email problem which is interesting. When I tried to read a batch of emails from gmail into SL Genie the program stopped. I cleared the problem by removing 200 of the oldest gmail items and the problem disappeared. I contacted  support who has always been pretty good and it seems that some people have created animated subjects which have been found to cause the problem I encountered. if this is happening I am wondering why the spam tools are not finding these and blocking them from being moved. At least I have something I can look for if this happens again.

[Garrett Hutsko]

I submitted a request for support to tiger Solo Ads Plus and to Viral Blitz Mailer because credits, banners, and text ads disappeared from my accounts. I was not happy about that since I  have been in them for a long time now. I received a response which I feel is one that I should not have gotten. Here is a copy of what I received:

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Dear Garrett Hutsko,

As an owner SL Genie is a cheater tool you  may use however i do not allow it on the Rina Recommends sites. Cheaters tools as it allows you to gain credits without clicking on emails your self and sharing your credits.

This results in a death of a site since there is no reason for members to open up your emails.

I did give you quiet a few solos regardless of how those credits were obtained.

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I tried to remove all the active links since I would not want anyone to follow these links, but I think this is not something an admin should put out.

[Darren Olander]

I haven't looked over SL Genie, but does it bypass the email copy and just open the link instead?

[Garrett Hutsko]

I haven't looked over SL Genie, but does it bypass the email copy and just open the link instead?

SLG basically has 3 boxes/panes in which it puts part of the promo:

      The first box is the credit link

      The second pane is a copy of the email as you would see it in and email reader

      The 3rd pane is what you would see in a web browser when you click on the credit link.

SLG allows you to see this all in one simple step such that you can focus on whichever of the items you want. It assists in the readin of the emails and helps to speed up the process making it more efficient.

Hope this helps, I use it all the time and see it as a great tool, but like all think not quite perfect.

 

Garrett

[Diane Mumm]

SLGenie, in my opinion not a cheater tool... you read mails just like others do however it shows the written ad in one frame and the main ad in another, side by side.... there is nothing wrong with using this program.. 

 

I read plenty of others mails and have joined from them via slgenie... it is a for a better term safelist manager.. it manages all aspects of email reading and sending.. organizes very well and I have never seen anything wrong with it and I am a owner of Mountain High Viral  Mailer..

 

I haven't experience this Garrett.. or maybe I don't quite understand what you had happen..

[Garrett Hutsko]

SLGenie, in my opinion not a cheater tool... you read mails just like others do however it shows the written ad in one frame and the main ad in another, side by side.... there is nothing wrong with using this program.. 

 

I read plenty of others mails and have joined from them via slgenie... it is a for a better term safelist manager.. it manages all aspects of email reading and sending.. organizes very well and I have never seen anything wrong with it and I am a owner of Mountain High Viral  Mailer..

 

I haven't experience this Garrett.. or maybe I don't quite understand what you had happen..

 

I am in total agreement here, I use SL Genie daily and often respond to the email I read there. I think that Rina is totally mistaken with her understanding of SL Genie and how it works. Her attitude over all is wrong and I think if she does not correct her thinking she will start to lose customers. She removed all my banner, text ads, and most of my credits since she believes that those in the sites she now owns have earned these by cheating. She has taken over a large group of SLs (Tiger Solo Ads Plus, Viral Blitz Mailer being 2 of them). I connected with an admin about another issue and it turns out that the same thing happened to them, I think that she is looking at these as money generators without paying attention to those on her lists, as a result I think she will start to fail in this process.

 

[captkirk]

Hi Garrett,

 

I wonder if Rina seen Dawn Orr (Tiger Solo Ads Plus) Testimonial on  SL Genie homepage for the world to see:

 

Hi Stanil,

 

I just wanted to take a moment and thank you for creating Safelist Genie.

I've been using SLG for several days now, and it's just absolutely fantastic!...

 

Of course, Dawn had a lot more to say on the home page of SL Genie.

 

http://www.slgenie.com

[Diane Mumm]

I feel if more people gave this tool a chance and tried it.. more would continue advertising and using mailers.. and not quitting and say safelist marketing doesn't work..

 

It just helps so much regarding the overall  aspects of email marketing.. People need to evolve and find out how much fun and how much it helps us marketers..  

 

Everything needs improved  and changed for the better.. the old way of reading mails is fine but this just helps move the process so much more efficiently.. 

 

I have heard Dawn uses this tool ... so she understands and knows it is a helpful tool...takes a little setting up but there is videos to help with this..

 

I also feel people would read more mails if they had this tool.. I am just glad I found it and feel it is worth every penny to help manage all my mailers..

 

  

[Garrett Hutsko]

I feel if more people gave this tool a chance and tried it.. more would continue advertising and using mailers.. and not quitting and say safelist marketing doesn't work..

 

It just helps so much regarding the overall  aspects of email marketing.. People need to evolve and find out how much fun and how much it helps us marketers..  

 

Everything needs improved  and changed for the better.. the old way of reading mails is fine but this just helps move the process so much more efficiently.. 

 

I have heard Dawn uses this tool ... so she understands and knows it is a helpful tool...takes a little setting up but there is videos to help with this..

 

I also feel people would read more mails if they had this tool.. I am just glad I found it and feel it is worth every penny to help manage all my mailers..

 

  

I am in total agreement with this in fact I consider SLG to be a mainstay in my online business and promote it heavily.

I do have a minor problem with SLG in the commission structure. When requesting a payment it takes up to 1 1/2 months to proess and they hold back 25% for possible refunds. I have a friend who has been waiting on $1500 and has still not collected, don;t know what the problem is and can't help in this.

If SLG is a cheat then that should also hold for programs link Mailer Ninja, Downline builder Elite, Referral Frenzy, and other such programs.

 

Garrett

 

[captkirk]

Do SL Genie allow you to gain credits without clicking on emails yourself?

 

You can get credit without exactly opening the email yourself?

 

You have to click for credits yourself in the following programs:

 

- ReferralFrenzy

- DownlineBuilderElite

- Mailer Ninja

[Garrett Hutsko]

Do SL Genie allow you to gain credits without clicking on emails yourself?

 

You can get credit without exactly opening the email yourself?

 

You have to click for credits yourself in the following programs:

 

- ReferralFrenzy

- DownlineBuilderElite

- Mailer Ninja

SLG forces you to develop good Safelist handling processes especially if you want to build a list in the safelist you are in. The 3 mentioned above though good don't force you to read emails, I you can also develop a list and an ongoing income with SLG. I would encourage you to check it out for yourself go to http://bweeble.com/brand/3a2d0 and sign up then spend some time with it. There are lots of people here who can help if you have problems.

 

Garrett

[captkirk]

I'm already member of SLG and the above sites that I listed.

[Garrett Hutsko]

I have been thinking alot about the SL Genie Versus the SLs in SL Genie. I see the SL Genie as a tool to use SLs and maintain a logical tracking tool for SLs. As such I don;t think SL Genie should be used as a way to tell SLs to get their act together. The way I see it SL Genie should have as many SLs in it as it an maintain. Currently if the SL does not perform to a level X it is removed from SL Genie. Personally I think that is wrong. I think the SL should take are of its members and SL Genie should have as many SLs as it can. I believe that if SL Genie if properly maintained can encourage SLs to perform better and grow, but SL Genie should not remove a SL from its list because of poor performance.

 

I see SL Genie as a tool that can be used to grow an SL. I think the growth of SLs should be the responsibility of the SL owner.

 

Across the Internet we hear the statement the money is in the list and basically what a SL is is a List being built by the owner ot the SL which others are allowed to use. With that in mind the SL owner should be working to keep his list alive and strong not someone looking at the SL. SLs will die if not handled correctly but I don't think SL Genie should be telling them they are failing. I think SL Genie should be a tool which is used to grow SLs.

 

We have owners of SLs here, I hope I correctly set forth how SL Genie operates and how SLs should grow.

[Darren Olander]

I have been thinking alot about the SL Genie Versus the SLs in SL Genie. I see the SL Genie as a tool to use SLs and maintain a logical tracking tool for SLs. As such I don;t think SL Genie should be used as a way to tell SLs to get their act together. The way I see it SL Genie should have as many SLs in it as it an maintain. Currently if the SL does not perform to a level X it is removed from SL Genie. Personally I think that is wrong. I think the SL should take are of its members and SL Genie should have as many SLs as it can. I believe that if SL Genie if properly maintained can encourage SLs to perform better and grow, but SL Genie should not remove a SL from its list because of poor performance.

 

I see SL Genie as a tool that can be used to grow an SL. I think the growth of SLs should be the responsibility of the SL owner.

 

Across the Internet we hear the statement the money is in the list and basically what a SL is is a List being built by the owner ot the SL which others are allowed to use. With that in mind the SL owner should be working to keep his list alive and strong not someone looking at the SL. SLs will die if not handled correctly but I don't think SL Genie should be telling them they are failing. I think SL Genie should be a tool which is used to grow SLs.

 

We have owners of SLs here, I hope I correctly set forth how SL Genie operates and how SLs should grow.

 

I agree, I mean if zero members are using SL Genie for a particular SL then sure it should be removed.. but let the members decide by their usage - they will choose whether to use certain safelists or not.

[Diane Mumm]

I have been thinking alot about the SL Genie Versus the SLs in SL Genie. I see the SL Genie as a tool to use SLs and maintain a logical tracking tool for SLs. As such I don;t think SL Genie should be used as a way to tell SLs to get their act together. The way I see it SL Genie should have as many SLs in it as it an maintain. Currently if the SL does not perform to a level X it is removed from SL Genie. Personally I think that is wrong. I think the SL should take are of its members and SL Genie should have as many SLs as it can. I believe that if SL Genie if properly maintained can encourage SLs to perform better and grow, but SL Genie should not remove a SL from its list because of poor performance.

 

I see SL Genie as a tool that can be used to grow an SL. I think the growth of SLs should be the responsibility of the SL owner.

 

Across the Internet we hear the statement the money is in the list and basically what a SL is is a List being built by the owner ot the SL which others are allowed to use. With that in mind the SL owner should be working to keep his list alive and strong not someone looking at the SL. SLs will die if not handled correctly but I don't think SL Genie should be telling them they are failing. I think SL Genie should be a tool which is used to grow SLs.

 

We have owners of SLs here, I hope I correctly set forth how SL Genie operates and how SLs should grow.

Garrett, you can always try and contact the owner, Stanil Dobrev ,  owner does not handle customer service of this product.. as you probably know.. or some of the changes taking place.. I do agree let others decide what mailers they want to keep.. and ones that are not of value to them.. since we are paying for the subscription it would be nice to have it handled this way.. 

 

I stopped promoting this tool long ago.. just because I didn't like the way things were going there..

 

I still use it but it may be on my list of deletion in the near future.. 

[Garrett Hutsko]

Garrett, you can always try and contact the owner, Stanil Dobrev ,  owner does not handle customer service of this product.. as you probably know.. or some of the changes taking place.. I do agree let others decide what mailers they want to keep.. and ones that are not of value to them.. since we are paying for the subscription it would be nice to have it handled this way.. 

 

I stopped promoting this tool long ago.. just because I didn't like the way things were going there..

 

I still use it but it may be on my list of deletion in the near future.. 

 

I appreciate your response and thanks. I agree that removing SLs due to a perceived nonperformance can be a mistake . Myself I was using SL Genie to help me decide where I was going to invest my dollars and where my memberships would be. Here of late it seems that Nick who is the Admin is removing SLs based on his criteria which to me is a mistake because in some cases I upgraded and felt I used my money wisely then I open SL Genie and find it gone. I think that the admins of the SLs should do a purges not him. I am almost to a place like you where I might also go to the delete level. I don;t want to but I fell that he is making SL Genie less than what it an be to a level where it does not function to the levels it can.